Last chance to join - VMP is closed to new members after March 1st

@TBoneZeOriginal We may figure out some wait list to add people back in who fall out accidentally but there’s no process built yet and automated sign up won’t exist.

@snapster good thing my card just expired and I got the new one.

@TBoneZeOriginal This pretty much just happened to me, actually. Lost my MVP ticker Also had the weird experience of getting BOTH the “thanks for being a current” and “thanks for being a former” member emails.

@TBoneZeOriginal Great question because I have had that happen. I had been a MVP member since the beginning and then all of a sudden I went to buy something and my membership was gone! I had to resign up and no my card had NOT been changed. It was just like it booted me out.

@snapster how about a 48 hour grace period for cards that decline?

coding, coding, coding

so explicit ‘i didn’t get a fuku, so i’m going to cancel’ can get an immediate boot, but ‘your card was declined’ fires off a note to the aMeh.rican or Meh.xican Meh.tizen to say, “really bunky, you want to leave this elite group?”

so say we all!

@mommacomet I had something similar happen too. Oh well, It’s fun while it lasts. But the “extra”’ benefits have been pretty non-existent. I hope whatever is planned will be as fun as the original woot and meh have been.

Change is the only constant, and unfortunately, visionaries like @snapster have to have constantly stir things up (even if they work) so they don’t get bored. I’ll go along for the ride, until I don’t, and then there will be plenty of others to take my place.

@snapster I’ve had my VMP membership just drop twice. Maybe if you can do some kind of grace period like @Yoda_Daenerys suggests set up a notification email that says “you’re no longer a VMP?”

@snapster I’m already half crazy clicking the meh button- please don’t make me paranoid about checking my credit card info too.

@Yoda_Daenerys Don’t you already get 10?

If you provide us with a new card and are successfully charged within 10 business days, your new membership period will be based on the original renewal date and not the date of the successful charge.

@stinks without the context of what is before or after that, i would guess no. i read that clause as saying your month started when you signed up, not when you paid. i don’t believe it addresses the case where you are a member in good standing and your card deets become invalid, unbeknownst to you.

@snapster By automated sign up won’t exist
do you mean that no automatic renewal each month of VMP and people will have to remember to do it themselves each month? I know you already mean no VMP choice when you buy something if you aren’t a member - but that isn’t exactly automated - you have to choose that. This is why I am asking.

@jsh139 IKR?!

@caspian +1. I haven’t ordered anything in quite a while and was going to cancel, pending a rejoin if I found something worth ordering in the future.

Rethinking that now. Value vs. benefits, and whether or not those benefits actually “benefit” me.

@caspian Seriously, at 12:01 every night I’m saying “I’ll give it one more day, then I’m out…”

@caspian why cancel? It’s just 5 bucks, I keep it active for whenever I might find something awesome here

@caspian I’m in the same boat. I was going to cancel this week. If I go an entire month without finding something worth $5 shipping I cancel until I do. I hope Meh finds more things that I want. I’m NOT interested in most of the $3 items just because they are cheap. For my 500 cents worth I’d like it to move in the original Woot direction that went out of their way to find unique things that were also a good deal.

@Kosm1K I haven’t bought anything on meh in a few months… Check 99/100 days, but nothing strikes me as something I can’t pass on.

@Kosm1K That is $60 a year. Maybe around what Costco or Sam’s Club costs… That suddenly becomes real money.

@Kidsandliz $60/yr is still less than A-zon Prime, yes?

@cwolfpack3 Not a good comparison though. Amazon offers millions of different products and they ship it quickly and it is supposed to get to you in 2 days. They have other Prime benefits such as Prime Video, Prime Music, Prime Pantry, and early access to sales.

@cwolfpack3 No idea I don’t pay for that either

@LankHairdoo Didn’t they refund your $5 if you didn’t order anything in a month? It still worked to your favor to get VMP a month at a time, but now, if they still refund, it’s the best deal going.

Do they refund for a month without orders?

@stinks Looks like a no: https://mediocre.com/forum/topics/vmp-membership-agreement

Did I make that up? Was there ever a refund for months you didn’t use it? Or was it only for the most recent month if you cancelled?

And if there’s no continual refund, who’s breaking meh’s bank with VMP? Did someone in North Dakota order 500 vacuums?

@stinks They did refund my $5 when I cancelled last month. I’m debating whether to join again this month before the deadline. If they start having more of a selection on Morning Save I might still use it. The problem I see with $5/month shipping is that they still have to price that into each item making them more expensive. Much like Amazon prime that has to make all the small items “Add-on” to price it competitively.

@connorbush There’s that word again. “Heavy.” Why are things so heavy in the future? Is there a problem with the Earth’s gravitational pull?

@clayboy I’m just happy it wasn’t “Savage”

@clayboy the future is now.

@clayboy “Ha Ha, Doc Brown!”

@clayboy It’s driving me mad. It’s driving me mad.

@connorbush No, the future was then.

@Fen_Star for now we’re locking this in. I’m excited about some of the plans brewing though.

@snapster this doesn’t feel like a real answer… it has the vibe of “I was thinking about something more important and forgot the ‘not’ when I was typing” - so, you ARE locking us into some benefits for other, partner-y, maybe-not-created-yet, Amazon-buy-out-type sites?

@PerfectTheo: @Fen_Star’s question is actually quite complicated, but I’ll try again.

Yes. We like how membership worked and we like free shipping as a core benefit. I foresee us supporting free shipping membership program of some sort on other new sites we launch. Because VMP will then be a closed program, this new program would not be VMP but would be something new. So the answer is Yes to the question. However, as an extended answer, because we would value those who were grandfathered in with VMP and not want to disadvantage them, we would figure out how to make a future program synergistic with staying VMP. Ideally, free. At the very least, I could see us offering what would essentially become a new singular all-inclusive program and allowing retention of token VMP badging and recognition ala “Charter Membership” honors at Woot or the Kickstarter Badge here.

The benefits we are locking in are the ones that exist now on the sites we have now. These benefits will not be offered after February 28th in the same combination or value as they are today, hence the grandfathering if you stay subscribed. The lock is to secure your benefits which will be superior to what can be subscribed to in the future. There’s no “locking in” meant to imply future site utility but that does not mean it will not be offered as a free overlay to VMP subscribers.

@snapster So the short version of what you said is (I think): VMP’s keep the benefits we have now that others won’t have, at least not right now. Then as you add more sites (or whatever you are up to) we are likely adding at least some benefits on those new sites/programs to those grandfathered in even if meh offers a separate benefit program on those sites to others. By “ideally free” you mean not necessarily free for everything with the "new’ program (eg giving yourself wiggle room), but maybe you might get some of those “new” benefits and a discount on paying for those “other” new site/program benefits… we are still deciding what we are doing and sending out a teaser so people have warning and perhaps people who buy less than 12 times in a year (eg you make money off of) still keep paying so they don’t then miss something they can’t have in the future. Is this more or less accurate?

@Kidsandliz I hope that’s accurate, since it made much more sense to me than @snapster’s original did. I’m feeling too old tonight to follow any kind of lengthy thought stream.

@Xkeeper yes the plan is to keep the release circuit breakers in place, though only VMP would see the 4pm launch at all once the program is gone. Quantity is already small there so I don’t think shrinking it is very possible!

@snapster Just so you know I never got an email. Just checked my spam too. When did you send it out?

@curtise I’ll never agree to that!

@curtise @snapster

DIE VMP DIE!

Congrats and enjoy your gloating rights, @unixrab. You were the first thing that popped into my mind when I got this email.

@SSteve Thank you Sir!!!

@curtise you for this comment. well played

@curtise It just goes to show how good of a deal VMP was that they have to discontinue it. I think @unixrab lost. Shows it was not the cash cow that he thought it was.

@curtise - @unixrab was my first thought upon stumbling into this thread.

@Thumperchick Do your remember the URL to my VMP dissertation?

@cengland0 riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight drink your koolaid

@unixrab You had many, which one are you referring to?

@unixrab Which one?

@unixrab wait… I found one…

@Thumperchick (ಠ_ಠ) I love you so much right now

@DeepThought I have the feeling it may or may not be a trick based on that I also was considering not doing it anymore… then BOOM. HOW CAN I LEAVE?

@ryancunderwood yeah i haven’t bought anything from meh in probably 9 months or so.

@eblade And you stays on as a VMP? That’s $45 for “free” shipping.

@tsfisch that doesn’t count what i saved on shipping prior to that, though. but, you’re right, it was basically a waste of most of that. I recognize that. Was too busy with things in life that happened to pay attention to meh, and when I did pay attention, it was just stuff i couldn’t even kind of justify purchasing.

@eblade This happened to me too. The reality is the nightly deals were all the same so I didn’t make it a priority anymore. One day I realized it had been 5-6 months without purchase and I would rather have Netflix 4K for my monthly spend. But I held on for the xmas and black friday season… only to be continually disappointed. After 14 months I canceled last month anf regardless of the new program, I’m not signing back up.

@ryancunderwood What?!?! You don’t want 98 different portable bluetooth speakers!?!?

@froppy does it count if it’s just better for us? j/k hopefully the plans for growth do feed back into Meh. It’s always going to mirror my true feelings of retail.

@Ceige thank you for the support! I look forward to the future when y’all are like the “Charter Members” group on Woot.

@snapster Or “plank owners.” Of course, that’s not so great if this ship was sinking. Looking forward to what comes after the three hour tour.
(I have the feeling I’m missing out on other emails Mediocre sends. )

@cobracat03 hopefully a nice mix of old and new still to come. We just move slower in our old age.

@cobracat03 - Probably Knives.meh

@Achromatter @cobracat03 and mugs.meh and headphones.meh.

@Achromatter Already have knifes.meh. You’re looking at it.

@craigthom and drones.meh and bluetoothspeakers.meh and travelmugs.meh

@snapster speakerdocks.meh please???

@brhfl there are other things in life and our future plans will need to remain exciting if we expect folks to join them. Screen capture your

@brhfl If you want to keep it for another quarter to see what happens I’ll send you twenty bucks.

@SSteve That’s really kind of you! But the fact is the $5/mo probably (hopefully?) wouldn’t break me, but things are going to be tricky and weird and cutting out little luxuries is okay. Ultimately, that’s what VMP is – a luxury. All will be fine. Thanks for being awesome, though!

@unixrab Exactly! (or brilliant marketing from @snapster’s viewpoint). Mediocre Labs magically created artificial scarcity, and more exclusivity, around VMP membership. Perhaps they saw VMP memberships stalling out or even falling; whatever the rationale, they’re now encouraging their “core crowd” to maintain VMP membership (aka free money for Mediocre) and pushing those on the fence to sign up. Brilliant!

If this doesn’t boost VMP signups enough, they can always open up limited time VMP join up events. Black Friday and Meh-offs provide great “excuses” to re-open VMP memberships.

@mwarren hey great idea!

@mwarren while I’ll take all the props I can get, VMP membership has accelerated to it’s fastest rate of growth during the last 3 months to >70% CAGR. The actual purpose is to alter our benefit structure – to simplify it in the future while still keeping Meh and other sites viable without membership. VMP as it’s constructed now won’t be offered again (nor will the name be used for that matter either - it’s too confusing to mainstream audiences)

@snapster

@mwarren hmmmmm

@unixrab enjoy this for 34 days. I get the rest of time.

@mwarren even if it’s true and never comes back (crosses self) it’s STILL A TRAP. Nothing’s changed - it still destroys lives and bank accounts by it’s lure of “saving money” but it’s vile claws reach up from bankruptcy and divorce courts all across this land (and South Korea) dragging poor damned souls to the depths of dispair and financial ruin while @snapster cackles all the way to the bank…

…wait…

… ok that’s too far… …but yeah, it’s a trap.

@snapster I’m still waiting on that Free Shipping To Canada VMP benefit we were all promised
Am I an idiot for remaining VMP since 2014 despite being in Canada? Probably. (I’m sure a certain unixrab would think so.) I have taken advantage of the complimentary shipping of a second item in a month exactly twice (to my sister’s house in VA). I received one pair of Mediocre socks. I was able to purchase a Stealth VMP shirt for $1. I rock the V badge. That is pretty much the entirety of the tangible benefits that I have received from being VMP.
But, the site is entertaining and I love your employees, and I figure it’s my vote for Mediocre to stick around, and I can afford it, and I hope you guys appreciate it at least a little bit, and stick around for years.
And yeah, you could maybe ship to just one customer in Canada (me), eh?

(Amazon Drone Delivery is currently limited to a single customer in England, so there’s a weak precedent for this kind of thing hehe)

@curtise What if I don’t want my stuff shipped to Canadia?

@curtise If it’s any consolation (I know it’s not but I want to add something to the conversation), I never got my super cool reward for submitting Mad Ape Den lyrics that were actually recorded.

too confusing to mainstream audiences

@snapster Ugh, those people. Destroyers of experimental business models, quirky mascot logos, undocumented power user features, freemium pricing, color schemes that aren’t blue and white, pictures of boobs, and everything fun. Fuck 'em! I mean, they are literal walking bags of money, but fuck 'em still.

@MontanaVike Now that you mention it, neither did I (mine was Like a Rolling Stone). Figured it just takes a couple of years.

@curtise I hope you’re not still waiting for that monthly box to ship from Europe, too.

@curtise Meh will ship to PO boxes. I got one just across the border. If you’re near the border then you won’t need to wait to get stuff from Virginia.

@cwolfpack3 Sadly, I couldn’t even sign up for the European box because, Canada. In this one case it was clearly for the best. RIP Eucopia.

@PhotoJim For me, the whole point of delivery is convenience. I’m in the Toronto area. It is unfortunately not convenient to have to buy a PO box in the states, and to drive a couple hours each way to pick something up, dealing with the border and all that. But I could see that being a thing if I was in, say, Windsor, Sarnia, or Sault Ste. Marie.

@boygenius1991 Sounds like they won’t really know about it.

@cinoclav

@awk someday we’re going to figure out how to bring our spite.com domain into actual use here.

@TRD I do hope to get a broader company mission across and have feel good sort of “thanks for supporting us” on a future program. But since we don’t have that now, my thanks here is all you get.

@snapster That is Mediocrely Appropriate.

/giphy thumbs sideways

@snapster Thanks for the reply. I just reread my post and realized it might have come across as cynical. It has been money well spent as far as I’m concerned. I love knowing I can click “Buy It” and get some meh stuff without worrying about shipping. And I think you guys sent me some socks once, too, right?

@ELUNO I think that must be @unixrab’s strategy for his secret second account with VMP

@snapster I DON’T HAVE A SECRET SECOND ACCOUNT…

…wait…

…ok… BUT THERE’S NO VILE V IN FRONT OF IT MR. INSIDE INFORMATION!

@ELUNO Fuku’s… I remember those from years past. Does Meh still do those? Haven’t seen one in awhile

@snapster now that’s funny… someone created a fake account to punk me - very funny whoever you are…

@wildcat they do, they’re just very rare

@madmaxmedia aha - a fellow former AT&T unlimited customer?

@snapster I still have AT&T Unlimited (which has actually been limited at various levels over the years). They increased the rate to $35/mo about a year ago. Now they are increasing to $40/mo in an effort to force me off. See here’s the thing though… T-Mobile has better rates so if they force me off unlimited in March, why should I stay?

@wildcat @snapster I have AT&T unlimited too! …now THAT is a good deal…even though they keep raising the price now and then

@unixrab I thought everyone was outta that by now. I bailed on that 2 years ago so I could get multi-device discount and tethering and full speed past the throttling crap.

@snapster welllllllllllllllllllllll there’s more to the story… we’ll leave it there.

@wildcat That’s nothing. My grandfathered unlimited plan on Verizon went from $30->50 in one fell swoop. I jumped ship over to T-Mobile back around Labor Day and am now grandfathered on their old unlimited plan (pre-One). I haven’t looked back.

@wildcat I also have the grandfathered plan, and for the life of me I can’t figure out why. I have “unlimited” data, but seldom cross the 2gb threshold. And I know that if I really did try to take advantage of it, I would get throttled to hell and back.

But something about the idea of having an account feature that no one else can sign up for anymore…

@madamehardy
Blasphemy… Amazon Prime > VMP by about a billion percent (give or take)

@unixrab The Meh people are nicer. I justify it as entertainment too.

@madamehardy I get a good return on Prime. Here I’m not sure.

What VMP does is encourage me to buy $10 and other crap I otherwise wouldn’t have. I know this because I occasionally see cheap crap on the old site I would buy, but I don’t because of the $5 shipping.

@craigthom hence my VMP dissertation

@wildcat What college students need to beat that textbook racket: MehCollegeTextbooks.com

@wwhite0028 No

@RedOak zactly

Just had another user-logo-thought that might reflect the true devotion of mehtizens - Display a small number inside a circle that reflects the number of orders on any of the Mediocre sites.

@RedOak I’m going for the next status. It’s a big “L”. Only $435 a month…

@RedOak Or they could put a square below your name, and the color of the square could reflect how many purchases you’ve made.

@craigthom

@RedOak
For some of us (shopaholics) that ‘circle’ will be an oval.

@wildcat

@RedOak Using Chrome, mine shows a flask.

@dweinsh289 but we look up to your “V” logo. Are you sure you want to go naked?

@yahsah15 Good question - I tested that last cycle and it worked fine but what about the future?

@yahsah15 @RedOak Not after March 1. If you cancel to get your refund back after then, then you are out and won’t be able to get back in.

@curtise I don’t think the question was about getting back into VMP - it was whether the auto-refund (if no purchases) for the current month will still happen after this change when you cancel?

@RedOak I don’t know what auto refund you’re referring to. AFAIK, the only way you get a refund is if you cancel your membership at the end of the month and hadn’t received any benefit that month. And then you sign up again the next month. Is there something else I’m missing?

@curtise That would be the auto-refund. It happens automatically when you cancel within the cycle - no need to request a refund.

What I am wondering (and thought @yahsah15 was asking), after March 1st, if you cancel and have not used the benefit in that cycle, does the automatic refund happen? Does this current “feature” survive March 1st?

@RedOak Doubtful any programming will change. It’s much easier to just start fresh and leave the trash on the floor…

@elysiumplain doesn’t require a programming change to leave something that already exists, in place - the auto refund. Actually, it would require a programming change to turn it off.

BTW, you don’t need to wait til the end of the month - you can turn it off as soon as you get charged and it will auto refund - as long as you haven’t used it that month.

@ryancunderwood same place - the sold out changes to available while quantity lasts if you are logged in. That said, the good stuff went so quick it could be annoying to try. Maybe moving forward that gets better now.

@snapster ah ok, im usually on mobile which doesn’t keep me logged in.

@ryancunderwood Yeah, they reserve about 3% of the items if it sells out for VMP members to fight over. Not too huge of a benefit.

@tsfisch I applaud your efficient use of the existing program. That method will work until an April 14th choice and ideally we’ll have news about future programs by then.

@tsfisch I used VMP exactly the same way - although in the good ol’ days it was more typically 1-3 items/month. So this VMP-pay-forever-or-die thing ain’t nice.

I just looked at my meh buying history and I’ve bought less than I thought. Then I went to look at my woot buying history, and I haven’t purchased anything there for 10 months.

Which is weird. When Woot was in its prime, I bought tons there, including numerous bigger ticket items like: 2 bicycles, a big-screen TV, a DVR security system not unlike what’s on meh today, countless toys in the 50-$100+ range, etc.

I haven’t bought from woot recently because the deals just aren’t good enough for me to ‘impulse’ on.

I haven’t bought all that much from meh because I just haven’t found the product selection to be that great (I’ve never understood why people buy tiny speakers… if I wanted crappy sound I’d use the built-in speaker on my phone).

I love the idea of meh and I’m not knocking it… I check it virtually every day (as do I still woot) but rarely pull the trigger anymore.

@tsfisch my thought exactly! I’ve never found the same excitement with the product mix here as I did at oldWoot. After the Woot sale to Amazon, I stopped buying things there on principle.

@tsfisch We don’t know that the new program won’t launch in March. There’s plenty of time.

@GLaDOS evidently that model no longer makes business sense. I’d argue that one can only see so many knives and speakers before burnout but what can you do?

@GLaDOS @tsfisch as inventor of the deal a day site concept, I defended it at Woot and then elected to start again and defend it here. I believe the concept is still disruptive and fun when built to a large scale with restraint on distractions. We have a good scale here but to reach a larger scale we need site partners. The web isn’t as open as it used to be - too many walled gardens monetizing their audiences.

I believe we have finally cracked how to scale while defending the simplicity of Meh itself. I think we can do this while helping the open web partners who brought Woot to life back in the day. I am very excited about it.

This first step is simply locking in those who supported us as customers so that new site programs can have freedom to try new things. VMPs will be honored and rewarded throughout the process.

@snapster Thanks for that peek into your head. 'Helps with understanding what’s going on.

@snapster honored and rewarded? you had me at honored…

@snapster Fingers crossed! Good luck!

@baqui63 it sounds like you might be the ideal example of what @unixrab talked about.

@baqui63 how many of those order would you had decided against if you had to pay $5 shipping?

i think my stats would resolve to the same conclusion as you’ve come to.

@Yoda_Daenerys I factor the cost of shipping (thus VMP) into my decision to order something. In 2016, for example, I only ordered 3 times. If I paid each month I’d lose money. Right now can’t afford that. I did order 3 times one month in 2015 (buying christmas presents) but these were deliberate purchases for presents, not impulse purchases. I just got lucky I didn’t have to pay shipping the other two times. VMP doesn’t really influence impulse purchases with me, but then again I am coming from it is worth “picking up pennies from the ground” vantage point at the moment. Hmmm I don’t suppose you will have “financial aid” for VMP? LOL You know, socially responsibility and all that (grin).

@Yoda_Daenerys, scrolling thru my purchases, there are maybe a dozen that I would not have purchased without free shipping; all are cheap items where $5 would have raised the price 30% or more and so this totals to ~$120. I’ll note that three such items have seen quite a bit of use.

71 (60%) of my 117 purchases have been well worth it and another 20 or so are for future projects (eg. the LED rope lighting) or gifts (eg. the hummingbird feeders). 11 were fuku|o purchases and purely for fun (tho several of these items have made great gifts or been useful). All in all, I don’t feel that I’ve wasted all that much money at meh and I regret very few of my purchases.

@RedOak, I’m guessing you are referring to @unixrab’s “It’s a trap!” argument and for some people I’m sure it is. I don’t feel that I’m a good example of it tho, since I have few regrets and feel I have wasted relatively little money at meh.

@baqui63 https://meh.com/forum/topics/this-is-why-i-dont-buy-vmp#5521968db03199c8081bf13a

@baqui63 @unixrab the carrier pigeon finally delivered the message?

Tree fiddy?

@alphaspark My guess, based on nothing, is that the other crap will be added on different sites, like morningsave.com, and meh.com will stay meh.com.

@kungfuqua That’s 100% exactly how I feel, and how I used VMP. I suspect that’s not the way they preferred us to use it though.

@kungfuqua Yep, I have used it the same way also. Yet, without VMP Meh may as well forget selling products under $10 because it’s those types of products that generate impulse buys from VMP members. For example take those knives sold last Tuesday; I would never have bothered buying a pair if I didn’t already have VMP. I had no need for two knives, it was a total impulse buy made more attractive since I didn’t have to pay an extra $5 for shipping. Should be interesting to see how these changes shake-out. Sure hope Meh avoids a “Bezos treatment”!

@tsfisch I am sure ideally they’d have loved for everyone to sign up and resign to/forget about another subscription service. Calendar reminders ftw.

@Kerig3 Absolutely! I cannot tell you how many times when I wasn’t VMP where I would have bit at smaller items if I also wasn’t adding $5 for shipping.

Ironically (or coincidentally, I dunno…Alanis really screwed up me being able to use that word in its proper context), I had just signed back up for VMP around 1pm yesterday (bought a Shark I’ll admittedly not use), then received an e-mail around 3 saying it was ending. Maybe they got sick of my indecisiveness.

@kungfuqua Well, this change to VMP still doesn’t go into effect until March 1st, so nothing really “happened” with the email announcement.

That said, if it’s the Shark powerhead vacuum that you bought, use it! I bought one too and I LOVE it! It made my old carpets look newer and clean. I cannot believe how much dust this vac picks up. (I’m ashamed to have lived with that dirt for as long as I did) Just try it!

@Kerig3 It was a Shark steam mop of some sort. I do need a new vaccuum, though. So if my experience with this is positive, I may check out your recommendation, thanks!

@Kidsandliz email:

Greetings Pantheist, thanks for being a former VMP member.

Starting March 1st, new VMP membership enrollment will end. All program benefits will continue for existing members. VMPs on board as of February 28th will be grandfathered in as long as they keep their monthly membership active.

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@Kidsandliz Yeah, I didn’t get this email either.
Thank you, @Pantheist.

@LaVikinga no problem

@Pantheist Thanks for posting that.

@Kidsandliz

@Kidsandliz there was also one for current VMP, as follows:

Greetings Yoda_Daenerys, thanks for being a current VMP member.

Starting March 1st, new VMP membership enrollment will end. All program benefits will continue for existing members. VMPs on board as of February 28th will be grandfathered in as long as they keep their monthly membership active.

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@Yoda_Daenerys I did t get the email either…guess I am really getting the meh treatment

@Tin_Foil Neat idea. And it seems that with an ever declining VMP population perhaps meh can score some little deals insufficient for the masses and offer them to VMPs.

@conandlibrarian speaking of heck deals - I have some swampland property for sale…

@conandlibrarian how many times have you bought at 4pm to classify this as ‘huge’?

i think i have 2 or 3 times, and at least one of those was likely purchased through peer pressure because all the popular aMeh.rican or Meh.xican Meh.tizens were buying them…

@katylava - would be interesting to have some stats on how many circuit breakers have been tripped, sales stats, VMPs buying at 4pm ET, etc.

/image oar knot

@conandlibrarian what leads you to believe the number of items held til 4pm does not align with the number of VMPs at any point in time?

@Stallion if

@Stallion And they price the stuff knowing they are only charging $5 for postage and likely know what % of VMP’s buy more than one thing so they can take that into account. Thus prices will be proportionally higher for heavier things as postage is fixed.

@Kidsandliz True. Definitely seems like the motivation is due to frequent VMP orders, especially on those cheapo items. Free shipping can easily mean the difference between being profitable, and not so I get their motivation, and its cool they are letting existing members hold on to the membership. I will say though, the difference that saved $5 in free shipping makes means the difference between me ordering, and not ordering so Meh may become much more Meh if VMP free shipping was gone. Some deals simply aren’t worthy after tacking $5 per order on top.

@Kidsandliz I thought were going somewhere interesting but you didn’t go where I expected…

As the number of VMP’s tapers off - as it most certainly will - the mix of “cheap” shipping will fall (VMPrs who buy 2 or more things per month.)(Assumes meh keeps $5 shipping.)

VMPrs who buy 1 thing will match the non-VMPr shipping revenue of $5. VMPrs who buy less than 1 item per month will be profitable to meh.com just as they are currently.

At some point the mix of sales to VMPrs will become small enough to almost ignore in pricing the item for sale.

What that means: Meh.com will have the same shipping revenue model as Woot. Knowing they are getting, on average, $5 shipping rather than having it diluted by multi-item/month VMPrs, they would be able to price lower than currently… Or perhaps not, and they could use that “new” margin to make meh.com profitable.

If you still buy, on average, one item per month (I haven’t, since the first 12-18 months) then it still makes sense to keep VMP. Note, on average one item per month could mean 2 items every other month, etc…

@RedOak That they trip wire for 4pm VMP is a separate “advantage” (especially in fuko’s for people who want to go to bed prior to each day’s new sale, plus now they have a warning there is a fuko and so can sit there right on the dot of 8 and 4 to try to get one without having to stay up late to see if there is one that day or if something cool is offered at a no brainer price) that if they don’t replace then for some people that may outweigh potentially lower prices. Certainly it would be easier to price things knowing the likely real shipping costs for each day’s item, adding all but $5 to the price of the item without trying to model VMP habits…

I figure that they can make their changes and we then make our own personal decisions based on what personally suits us best. As they are rolling out a new program, I’d guess some people are hedging their bets (eg keeping VMP) until they see if the new program suits their own personal needs better.

@Kidsandliz the 4pm thing might be a feature of VMP, but I’ve never had to use it - stuff seems to be available at 8am - and I could care less about a bag of crap… at any time of day.

It might have been a more valuable feature had it existed in the earlier meh.com days when the startup promo deals flourished.

@Achromatter yes move, don’t sell your house, and don’t get a divorce…yet.

morningsave.com a sister site of meh (with multiple items), VMP members get 10% off there and free shipping.

4PM launch? When an item here on meh is popular and trips the circuit breaker, the deal is paused until 8AM eastern time when it starts back up. If the breaker trips again the deal will pause until 4PM and at that time only VMPs will have a shot when it goes live again.

@Ignorant - Oh, I see, I thought it was some sort of new product launch every day at 4PM, like woot used to have occasionally. I guess I wasn’t missing anything after all.

Thanks.

@Achromatter @ignorant

@mrken30 I just heard from a rock solid source (my aunt’s facebook page) that Meh headquarters is really just a front for Irk’s puppet pornography ring!
Believe me…believe me…

@mrken30 Is it April first?!

@zachhh If you want some of my CAH cheapo Hanukkah socks, I’d be happy to share!

@craigthom No, it’s my fault. I wore my black on black VMP shirt on Tuesday, when they were probably preparing the email notice.

@plastrd

(except when I forgot and you clever bastards got an extra $5 from me).

THIS!!!

@2many2no check spam folder?

@cwolfpack3 That is where mine was…

@2many2no Me too- not in spam either.

@2many2no Same here. No email and not in spam.

@cwolfpack3 @sammydog01 @Kidsandliz
Nope, not in spam, but I did get the notification emails for these replies.

I didn’t get the email either. I’m guessing it wasn’t sent to current vmp members, which is kind of weird.

@PurplePawprints I got it, but it was in my gmail spam folder.

@cwolfpack3 I would do this, 100%

@cwolfpack3 @hanzov69

$4999.99 lifetime VMP (elite) membership

@unixrab Sorry, dude. I’m not going to live that long (83 years). But you feel free to go right ahead and do it!

@cwolfpack3

@DaveInSoCal

@f00l

@thunderpud I just logged in to specifically cancel my VMP and then see this. Frikkin Meh! Here’s a nother $5.

@BinkyMelnik email support

@Mikamd Looks like your VMP membership is already canceled.
If you want to delete your entire account, waiting for customer support to answer your email is your best bet. They can take a day or two to respond, as they are a bit behind at the moment and work M-F 9-5.

@Mikamd There is no phone support for mediocre or their affiliate companies. Customer support will respond to your email as soon as they can.

@ROSIEMBROZOSKI that is absolutely crazy!

@ROSIEMBROZOSKI PS:
If you want to cancel your VMP Membership go here: https://mediocre.com/vmp and click on “cancel anytime”

@Toriningen I suspect that if you can’t see a VMP link at the top of the page then that means you’re not in VMP. Since VMP is over, there’s no point in leaving the links for it on Meh and MorningSave.

Posting is also a good way of seeing your status. If you don’t have the VMP badge next to your name (which you don’t) then you’re not definitely in VMP.

@JacKillin happy birthday.
/image you get nothing

@kathryncottrill you can cancel your VMP by clicking the V symbol at the top right of any forum page, go to your membership, scroll down until you see an option to cancel.
If you really would like to delete your account, please contact mediocre.com/support and they will help you.

@Lindajh did you ask nice?

@Lindajh or did you go here
https://mediocre.com/vmp

And scroll down a tiny bit to where it says

You can change your default payment settings, view your VMP payments, or cancel.

And click on the word “cancel”?

@Lindajh I was able to cancel this for you. If you have any other questions in the future you can reach us at https://mediocre.com/support

@fredojun if we could only introduce you to @Lindajh (1 post up) we’d have a great solution.

Contact CS to see if they can help.

@zitro165 https://meh.com/support

@therealjrn

/giphy huh?

@wootprime they’re messing with you. Probably.

@wootprime we don’t like, hold ourselves to time constraints. Or something.

@bran31600 did your card expire or get replaced recently?

Contact support and they can help you out.

@bran31600 We were buried. Looks like we answered you earlier today, though.

@tashadow My vote is that you just buy some candy corn.

@tashadow So. It’s now May of 2020.

How’s that VMP working out for you?

@gomescl33 10% off at MorningSave is for VMP Members, it’s an old grandfathered Membership program.

And for any other VMPs reading this, you have to use the coupon code “VMP” to get it. It doesn’t just show up automatically anymore.

@gomescl33 Just a note, that does not apply to all of their products. They have daily promotions called DayBreak or something like that, and your 10% off does not apply. I suppose the 10% off is for non-discounted products.

Hi @Moeantgee sorry this is a late reply, these forums aren’t checked all that often.

If you haven’t already figured it out, head over to the Payments Settings section of your Account Page, then down at the bottom in the Credit Card section you can remove the current card and add a new one.